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Extended Zodiac/God Tier Analysis
Offline 06-19-2018, 03:31 AM
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RE: Extended Zodiac/God Tier Analysis
Anytime, guys. These are really fun for me! If there aare any more requests or questions about classpects, I'd love to help.

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Offline 06-20-2018, 07:20 AM
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Hey i was wondering if you could do the reverse?? Like i give you a character and then you classpect them.

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Offline 06-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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(06-20-2018 07:20 AM)Cooki3s_pl3as3 Wrote:  Hey i was wondering if you could do the reverse?? Like i give you a character and then you classpect them.

Oh, like evaluating a character and trying to choose a classpect? I could try that, sure!

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Offline 06-20-2018, 10:04 AM
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Ok so,

Sign: virga (since this is about the extended zodiac

Bio: she likes to gossip and do traditional art. She likes to not take action, Basically all bark and no bite ( some call her two faced ). She can get people mad when she wants to but when shes not trying to piss you off for fun shes most likely helping or encouraging you to do something productive. She talks about other people but that doesn't necessarily mean she talks negatively about them. She has tried to get into hobbies and intrests but failed. The only one that really sticks is art and she really good at it. She also likes dancing a lot. Shes evasive and not very good at manipulating. Her friend group trusts her though.

(Wow she sounds like a horrible person the way i described her)

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Offline 06-20-2018, 12:11 PM
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(06-20-2018 10:04 AM)Cooki3s_pl3as3 Wrote:  Ok so,

Sign: virga (since this is about the extended zodiac

Bio: she likes to gossip and do traditional art. She likes to not take action, Basically all bark and no bite ( some call her two faced ). She can get people mad when she wants to but when shes not trying to piss you off for fun shes most likely helping or encouraging you to do something productive. She talks about other people but that doesn't necessarily mean she talks negatively about them. She has tried to get into hobbies and intrests but failed. The only one that really sticks is art and she really good at it. She also likes dancing a lot. Shes evasive and not very good at manipulating. Her friend group trusts her though.

(Wow she sounds like a horrible person the way i described her)
Interesting! Hmm... Virga, huh? Jade + Derse + Space. This is a bit of a weird opinion and I could very much be wrong, but I feel like the Extended Zodiac test can be a little hard to use for fantrolls, at least through the test. I prefer to use the Extended Zodiac only for its descriptions when it comes to making fantrolls.

Personally, this character reminds me of a Rogue of Breath. I know their official aspect is Space, but I had some trouble thinking of a class for that aspect, at least considering what I do know about her.
Aspect - Breath
Here's why I think she fits the Breath aspect. She talks about people often, and sometimes aggravates others, and it sounds like she's got a sense of independence and does things off of her own volition.
It sounds like a lot of her personality revolves around how she interacts with people. Breath is about freedom and independence, and being a little avoidant of social activities in a sense. It's sort of meant to counteract Blood's theme of connection and responsibility. While it does sound like she's something of a social person, her status as a Rogue can further seal my point, but I'll get into that in a sec.
Her inability to stick to certain hobbies is reminiscent of how Breath players tend to fail at being tied down. Perhaps the obligation of sticking to more than one interest bores them or is just hard for them?

Class - Rogue
The reason I say she'd be a good Rogue is because of her passive nature, and the way she sort of stays connected to her friends in a sense. Rogues tend to push their aspect away and share it with others, reallocating it, sometimes taking it from some people and giving it to others. In this case, she'd be taking individuality and freedom from social norms away from some people, and giving it to others.
The way she gossips about people seems to do this in a sense. By speaking about other people, she's bringing up things to sway her peers' opinions on others, holding certain people to various standards.
In turn, she encourages her friends to be productive at times, giving Breath's more passive characteristics of progression and determination to others.

Basically, the way she stays connected and relevant with her friends, but still acts somewhat independent makes me think of a Rogue of Breath. If you need a Space-type classpect, let me know, I'm sure I could think of something!
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Offline 06-21-2018, 01:07 AM
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hey dil, any thoughts on how a prince of light would act/behave?

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Offline 06-21-2018, 02:22 AM
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(06-21-2018 01:07 AM)lonelyTroubadour Wrote:  hey dil, any thoughts on how a prince of light would act/behave?

Alright, real talk, the Prince of Light is easily one of my favorite classpects to date, and here's why:

Princes actively destroy their aspect and tend to mask the opposite.
Light is about knowledge, information, and in a sense, luck.

I believe that the Prince of Light is the type of person to be much smarter than one would assume at first. They'd accept how little they know about the world, and would prefer it that way, sticking to the principles of mystery and subtlety. I imagine this classpect has had quite a bit of experience gaining knowledge and actively burying it in the back of their heads. Perhaps they simply don't want the factoids and details they've gotten.

Regardless, here's where it gets interesting. If they meet someone who seems to know a lot, or acts like they do, the Prince of Light would expertly challenges that information and shuts it down. Princes tend to be aggressive, or assertive, and that fits perfectly with this classpect. They'd be the type to join a group discussion, listen to one person's argument, and once that person claims that they did solid research, the Prince of Light would basically be like "here are the 9876543456781 reasons you're incorrect", explain it, and end it with a good ol' "basically, you don't know what you're talking about. so just drop it."

The Prince of Light would no doubt think and act subtly until the time is right to make room for Void. Either that, or they'd be somewhat mysterious, not truly letting onto their true natures. In a sense, it's possible that one way they interact with their aspect is being more of an attention seeker than most Void players. Despite their possibly more ambiguous tendencies, a lot of the things they do are to gain some sort of recognition perhaps. Or maybe they don't want attention and only really get aggressive when they get any.

Basically, Princes are awesome, and the Prince of Light is quite an interesting character. The conflict between their intellect and their refusal to accept the truth could create a lot of confusion in their psyche and can make for some really awesome character arcs.

Hopefully this helps!

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Offline 06-21-2018, 06:40 AM (This reply was last modified: 06-21-2018 06:40 AM by lonelyTroubadour.)(Edited by lonelyTroubadour.)
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thank you! i thoroughly enjoyed reading that actually. that was a good analysis.

what do you think would be a good classpect for someone with a lot of pent up anger? like the servant who is just done serving and such or a slave rebelling? i think rage would be the ideal aspect but what do you think would be the class?

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Offline 06-21-2018, 10:17 AM
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(06-21-2018 06:40 AM)lonelyTroubadour Wrote:  thank you! i thoroughly enjoyed reading that actually. that was a good analysis.

what do you think would be a good classpect for someone with a lot of pent up anger? like the servant who is just done serving and such or a slave rebelling? i think rage would be the ideal aspect but what do you think would be the class?

Glad you enjoyed the first one!

Rage sounds like it would be the ideal aspect, I'd agree with you there. It could also be a couple other aspects and classes depending on how exactly they go about it. I for one think they'd fit Rage, Hope, Breath, and Blood really well for aspect themes, and their class could be Mage or Prince from what it sounds like to me. Really it takes a bit more detail to decide, so I couldn't exactly say for sure yet. That said, here are a few pitches, and I made sure to add just a couple more details to help you decide in case you have a certain idea for this character's personality:

Mage of Rage
Mages experience and learn from their Aspect, often suffering from it and growing stronger as a result. Rage is the aspect of skepticism and thrives off of anarchy rather than corrupt civilization. Often times, Rage players can be considered "hopeless" as their lives tend to lead them down paths that affect their potential in some regard, if they don't know what they're doing at least.

As a Mage, an oppressed servant would live in a society that essentially embodied a Rage player's view of Hope. It's corrupt, unfair, and it shouldn't be the way it is. If the Mage's outburst was gradual and they had lived in slavery for a long time, only realizing later down the line that it was wrong, you could argue that they had experienced what it was like to be filled with Rage. They learned what Rage was truly about and finally gave in, and basically revolted against their leaders.

Random MoR Stuff:
- Probably not very sociable, or at least more aggressive
- As a result of their captivity or unfair treatment, possibly a lot more wary of other people
- Acting mostly out of resentment or literal rage

Prince of Hope
This one is similar to the Mage of Rage with the same reasoning, however, this one might be a bit better if the character was a little more on the optimistic side. Take a look at Eridan. He embodied Rage through anger and rebellion, skeptical of the world around him and taking action because of it. However, he was, in a sense, optimistic, as Hope players tend to be. His belief that he was entitled to great things and respect led him to Rage in a sense. His own Hope sort of acted as a guide to destruction and mayhem.

Let's say the slave or servant acted not out of resentment towards the society they lived in, but more out of the belief that they could reach something better. Through their Hope, they destroyed their society, and brought themselves to Rage. Really, the difference between Prince of Hope and Mage of Rage depends on their intent.

Random PoH Stuff:
- Probably acts out of self-motivation
- Possibly the most passionate of all these in terms of their rebellion
- Potentially a bit more friendly, optimistic, or approachable

Prince of Blood
I believe Blood would be a pretty fitting aspect as well. Blood revolves around sacrifice, connections, camaraderie, and the Blood-bound tend to be quite grounded in their responsibilities and the societies they live in. As a servant or a slave, naturally they'd be under the weight of their societal norms, forced to live up to prejudicial expectations and such.

Like the Prince of Hope, as a Prince of Blood they would totally want to destroy the chains that are tying them down. They'd strive for individuality and would fight back, essentially destroying the social boundaries they were forced to live by.

The thing that seperates this from the Prince of Hope in my eyes is that it's a less personal choice, and more based on their realization that their captor's actions were morally dubious, and would more be acting as a selfless hero than a determined individual.

Random PoB Stuff
- Still socially driven as a Blood player
- Perhaps gained the inspiration to escape/rebel from a fellow captive or servant
- The Prince of Blood would also probably discard connections to others when they saw fit, so if they tend to do that sort of thing, that would be a good way to determine if this classpect is right for them
- In other words, sociable, but using others more as tools or resources possibly

Mage of Breath
Mage of Breath is to Prince of Blood, as Mage of Rage is to Prince of Hope.
Like the Mage of Rage, they would learn about their potential freedom and probably acts more so out of personal desires to escape. As Breath is the aspect of progression and individuality, they'd likely be more personally driven and possibly a lot more determined to get what they want. Likely a dreamer, this classpect could more so be for a character who just wants to be able to live freely and without restraints on their freedom. Unfortunately, it'll likely be a grueling process, to fit in with the Mage theme.

Random MoB Stuff
- Not necessarily against socializatiton, but less reliant on it than the PoB
- Probably a bit more impulsive and in-the-moment
- I can see the Mage of Breath being an unintentional inspiration to others, as according to the Extended Zodiac:
Often, heroism comes along as an offshoot of them pursuing their own personal stories. They lead by example, and will routinely be surprised that others look up to or feel inspired by them.

That's what I got! If you want more general details on some of these, do let me know, because these are just fitting with the theme of the character rather than who they are in terms of personality and such.

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Offline 06-21-2018, 10:55 AM
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nah i love it when it's long, more to ingest.

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