Post Reply 
 
Freshness Rating:
  • 1 Votes - 1 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Fanspecies
Offline 12-06-2017, 11:41 AM
Reply: #1
Fanspecies
I'm not entirely sure if this goes here... I'm a bit confused by all these forums and sub-forums. Huh

That being said I'm here to talk about fanraces and the like.
I've always wanted to run my own little fan-adventure/rp and a long time ago I adopted a fanrace for my own use. Only now am I deciding to do something with them.

I'm just not sure what makes a good fanrace or what makes a bad one.
I'll be honest, I'm just not sure if I'm a good world builder.
Find all replies by this user
Edit this reply Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-08-2017, 02:13 AM
Reply: #2
RE: Fanspecies
Oh my god. I haven't been here in a while and honestly, I'm a little rusty on my Homestuck, so I don't know if my opinion is the greatest, but here we go. Try to make your fan races as close to canon as possible. It's definitely irritating if they're obviously not canon. I think creating a rp for your fan-race would be a great way to introduce it and make adjustments as needed. I don't think that you need to be a great world builder for this to work, you just need a bit of creativity and a hell of a lot of knowledge of canon. To be honest, I'd like to know more about the fan-species just so I could critique it better. Otherwise, I mean, just kinda roll with it and see where it goes.

It's been one long ass ride.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-09-2017, 01:10 AM
Reply: #3
RE: Fanspecies
True true I should have posted a little bit of information on the fanrace I've got...

I'll work on it, see if I can't post it either today or tomorrow hopefully. My schedule is a bit hectic at the moment.

(12-08-2017 02:13 AM)arsenicArachnid Wrote:  Oh my god. I haven't been here in a while and honestly, I'm a little rusty on my Homestuck, so I don't know if my opinion is the greatest, but here we go. Try to make your fan races as close to canon as possible. It's definitely irritating if they're obviously not canon. I think creating a rp for your fan-race would be a great way to introduce it and make adjustments as needed. I don't think that you need to be a great world builder for this to work, you just need a bit of creativity and a hell of a lot of knowledge of canon. To be honest, I'd like to know more about the fan-species just so I could critique it better. Otherwise, I mean, just kinda roll with it and see where it goes.

I am curious what you mean by "as close to cannon as possible"?
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-12-2017, 01:10 PM
Reply: #4
RE: Fanspecies
Alright I'm here with some info to post about the fanspecies I've got, hopefully there's some good stuff in here to get some responses.

   
first ever picture of a diver

Planet X:
In reality I don’t have a name for it. It probably did have a name at one point, but I forgot it, and haven’t come up with a good name.

The Diver home-world is a large planet with an extremely volatile climate; the sky is dominated by huge never-ending thunderstorms and the animal life is just monstrous. The only way Diver’s managed to survive was through their technological advancement. No one is sure when it happened, but at some point in Diver History they managed to suddenly develop high technology, and eventually abandoned their plant’s surface for life in the skies.

Two of their inventions really helped them out here, Symbiotes and Cells.
Cells are what Diver’s call their homes; from the moment of birth each Diver is assigned a Cell of their very own… They’re given the most basic house plan that will effectively see to their needs; having a bedroom, bathroom, and a combined kitchen and living space. Of course, they can buy more rooms and personalize their Cell to suit their needs as soon as they’re able to use the internet/work. In fact, the government encourages young divers to do so.

Cells are pretty much impervious to the storms that constantly batter their planet; hovering in place no matter how strong the winds, waterproof and even capable of absorbing lightening for energy!!

Diver kids live alone until they’ve come of age, and their cell joins up with thousands of others in a city.

Symbiote:
(The machine on the boys back in the image)
Diver’s are weak. In ancient times they were prone to sicknesses, disease and all sorts of health problems. Combined with being a food source to the numerous predators that lived on the surface of the planet with them, Diver lives were usually short and dominated by fear.

Sometime after their miraculous tech-expansion some ingenious scientist came up with the Symbiote, meant to increase their chances of survival. They’re essentially little robot doctors, creating nanobots to fight off infections, synthesizing vaccines, closing wounds…. Lots of helpful things really.

They’re so good at their job that the Diver government decided to keep manufacturing them… with a few upgrades of course.

Caste System:
The divers do have a caste system tied to color and class; I’m just not sure how to set it up in a way that doesn’t resemble the trolls too much. Especially since I want to use the astrological/planet symbols for them… picked solely because I happen to like Greek mythology. It’s my favorite.

But unlike the trolls, who naturally have different blood-colors and centered their caste system on that; the diver’s is a completely artificial creation. At the moment of creation, there isn’t anything different between them. It isn’t until they join with their symbiotes does the Caste System really begin.

The Caste System is highly tied to Jobs; those lower on the caste system are workers who will probably spend all their life doing back-breaking labor, those at the top are more like natural born world-leaders, making tough decisions but with lots of leisurely free-time. Who decides the castes? Robots.
The Birthing Matrices (essentially giant baby factories) that cover the planet monitor the number of divers in each caste and makes predictions on how many will be needed to replace those that have died, as well as the needs of the society they manage.

Wage Slavery:
Each Caste is associated with a particular type of work, and young Diver’s are taught from a young age what will be expected of them when they come of age and join the work force. More often than not young divers will have spent a couple years or so in a practice job simulation; complete with pay and government monitoring to prepare them.

The only ways out of this cycle of never ending misery are death, banishment, or skill.
And it’s that last one that gives thousands of Divers hope. Skill means that they have a marketable well… skill that isn’t caste specific. It can be anything from being a genius inventor to just being a musical star – if you do it well the government is willing to pay you to just make music or fix robots.
You’ve just go to sign over complete control of your product to the government and do what they say.

Government:
I uh… don’t really know about this?
Like I’m not sure what to call it other than oppressive.
Right like there is a small number of the ruling elite (those at the top of the diver caste system), the natural born rulers of the world. Each one of these rulers has their own sector of the planet to rule over in any way they see fit, answerable to really only themselves and perhaps other nosy elites.

They’re responsible for the Diver’s cultural propensity for Greed, their callous disregard for anyone lower than them on the caste system yet fawning attitude for their superiors, and labor they force on literal children. … Basically, they’re the architects behind everything bad in society.

Romance:
Is for the rich.
No really, it’s common opinion in Diver society that if you aren’t rich (AKA: one of the higher castes), then your time is better spent working, or using your free-time to improve your skills to get a promotion.

This sentiment is slowly dying out though, so the PC’s generation will be a bit more open for things like romance and friendships. The government does have an 'approved' method of categorizing relationships. They view friendships as a business; time is money and they're only worth what you get out of it.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-13-2017, 05:36 AM
Reply: #5
RE: Fanspecies
(12-12-2017 01:10 PM)pickedPocket Wrote:  Alright I'm here with some info to post about the fanspecies I've got, hopefully there's some good stuff in here to get some responses.


first ever picture of a diver

Planet X:
In reality I don’t have a name for it. It probably did have a name at one point, but I forgot it, and haven’t come up with a good name.

The Diver home-world is a large planet with an extremely volatile climate; the sky is dominated by huge never-ending thunderstorms and the animal life is just monstrous. The only way Diver’s managed to survive was through their technological advancement. No one is sure when it happened, but at some point in Diver History they managed to suddenly develop high technology, and eventually abandoned their plant’s surface for life in the skies.

Two of their inventions really helped them out here, Symbiotes and Cells.
Cells are what Diver’s call their homes; from the moment of birth each Diver is assigned a Cell of their very own… They’re given the most basic house plan that will effectively see to their needs; having a bedroom, bathroom, and a combined kitchen and living space. Of course, they can buy more rooms and personalize their Cell to suit their needs as soon as they’re able to use the internet/work. In fact, the government encourages young divers to do so.

Cells are pretty much impervious to the storms that constantly batter their planet; hovering in place no matter how strong the winds, waterproof and even capable of absorbing lightening for energy!!

Diver kids live alone until they’ve come of age, and their cell joins up with thousands of others in a city.

Symbiote:
(The machine on the boys back in the image)
Diver’s are weak. In ancient times they were prone to sicknesses, disease and all sorts of health problems. Combined with being a food source to the numerous predators that lived on the surface of the planet with them, Diver lives were usually short and dominated by fear.

Sometime after their miraculous tech-expansion some ingenious scientist came up with the Symbiote, meant to increase their chances of survival. They’re essentially little robot doctors, creating nanobots to fight off infections, synthesizing vaccines, closing wounds…. Lots of helpful things really.

They’re so good at their job that the Diver government decided to keep manufacturing them… with a few upgrades of course.

Caste System:
The divers do have a caste system tied to color and class; I’m just not sure how to set it up in a way that doesn’t resemble the trolls too much. Especially since I want to use the astrological/planet symbols for them… picked solely because I happen to like Greek mythology. It’s my favorite.

But unlike the trolls, who naturally have different blood-colors and centered their caste system on that; the diver’s is a completely artificial creation. At the moment of creation, there isn’t anything different between them. It isn’t until they join with their symbiotes does the Caste System really begin.

The Caste System is highly tied to Jobs; those lower on the caste system are workers who will probably spend all their life doing back-breaking labor, those at the top are more like natural born world-leaders, making tough decisions but with lots of leisurely free-time. Who decides the castes? Robots.
The Birthing Matrices (essentially giant baby factories) that cover the planet monitor the number of divers in each caste and makes predictions on how many will be needed to replace those that have died, as well as the needs of the society they manage.

Wage Slavery:
Each Caste is associated with a particular type of work, and young Diver’s are taught from a young age what will be expected of them when they come of age and join the work force. More often than not young divers will have spent a couple years or so in a practice job simulation; complete with pay and government monitoring to prepare them.

The only ways out of this cycle of never ending misery are death, banishment, or skill.
And it’s that last one that gives thousands of Divers hope. Skill means that they have a marketable well… skill that isn’t caste specific. It can be anything from being a genius inventor to just being a musical star – if you do it well the government is willing to pay you to just make music or fix robots.
You’ve just go to sign over complete control of your product to the government and do what they say.

Government:
I uh… don’t really know about this?
Like I’m not sure what to call it other than oppressive.
Right like there is a small number of the ruling elite (those at the top of the diver caste system), the natural born rulers of the world. Each one of these rulers has their own sector of the planet to rule over in any way they see fit, answerable to really only themselves and perhaps other nosy elites.

They’re responsible for the Diver’s cultural propensity for Greed, their callous disregard for anyone lower than them on the caste system yet fawning attitude for their superiors, and labor they force on literal children. … Basically, they’re the architects behind everything bad in society.

Romance:
Is for the rich.
No really, it’s common opinion in Diver society that if you aren’t rich (AKA: one of the higher castes), then your time is better spent working, or using your free-time to improve your skills to get a promotion.

This sentiment is slowly dying out though, so the PC’s generation will be a bit more open for things like romance and friendships. The government does have an 'approved' method of categorizing relationships. They view friendships as a business; time is money and they're only worth what you get out of it.

This is honestly the best fanspecies I've heard yet. It's really well written and well developed. I feel like this would be great for a roleplay.

The description though. There could be an entire plotline about this species and you bet that I'd read it. The plot could go so many ways.

10/10. Make a roleplay for this. I'm interested.

It's been one long ass ride.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-14-2017, 10:05 AM
Reply: #6
RE: Fanspecies
i had a fanspecies that i did a few months ago with the name Satyrs, they were pretty much like goat people i guess with a society that was based off of satirical and ironic humor.

and if i remember correctly, satyr society had that if the longer the horns a satyr had, the more commonly appreciated their jokes would be and just generally be treated like a ultimate funnyman comedian

of course, there was also mutant satyrs that had 4 horns a la sollux, and mutant satyrs' joke would be held higher than a long-horned satyrs'.

if memory serves correct, however

[Image: UBKCLrH.png] Sethur Eutrea, Knight Of Breath[Image: UBKCLrH.png]

NEW ALTERNIA - MY DISCORD SERVER OF 180+ USERS: https://discord.gg/8NJuBMU
Visit this user's website Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-18-2017, 03:40 AM
Reply: #7
RE: Fanspecies
I'm gonna be honest, satyrs are pretty cool.
If you've got any art of them I'd be really excited to see it.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 12-30-2017, 07:32 AM (This reply was last modified: 12-30-2017 07:35 AM by pickedPocket.)(Edited by pickedPocket.)
Reply: #8
RE: Fanspecies
I have a big question:
Do these guys seem reptilian to you or not?

I was talking with a friend about this dude and came across the realization that we had different ideas on what sort of species Diver's were based off of. Certainly they're aliens, but I figure all life no matter where it starts could have similarities to Earth species. At least enough to make vague comparisons - the beginning is the same but the end result is vastly different.

My friend thought that they were cats - something about those feet struck them as being extremely feline I guess.
As for myself, I've always interpreted them as being Reptilian in nature. Their scales may not be as big and blocky as a lot of the art there is for reptile-humanoid type creations... But I've always pictured the scales as small and smooth, that if you looked closely they would be there.

I'm really reminded of this guy
[Image: 12-2133.jpg]
I remember seeing this dude from an old history channel documentary, exploring the what-ifs of dinosaur evolution had they not been completely wiped out by that meteor.
And while it isn't an exact comparison I thought it would be feesible, you could look at the Diver image I posted and this dude and be like "Yeah I can see the reptilian connection".

Now I am not as certain... But this is also the friend who think's I should rename them; either Gnomes or Gremlins. (They're explanation behind that being it fits in more with the Trolls/Cherubs naming structure and because Diver's a "techy" like Gnomes and Gremlins.)
This dicision will have far reaching ramifications - messing up some theoretical godtier designs but also anatomy and stuff.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 01-01-2018, 06:11 AM
Reply: #9
RE: Fanspecies
On the subject of fan characters/species, (If I am not interrupting anything, good, but if I am, feel free to tell me and I'll delete my post.) I made a fanspecies that currently have no image yet, but I'm working on it.


Planet: Infinite Prime
The planet is actually named
and it is powered mostly by its inhabitants. the more people live here, the more resources there is and will be, since the planet is not one, but infinite copies of itself living in the same space: The inside of Oort's Cloud. Climate wise, to balance the infinite copies, it's almost apocalyptic when events are happening. wind becomes a massive threat as its speed becomes as powerful as a f-5 category tornado. Volcanic eruptions mass to about ten times more powerful than Pompeii. Earthquakes literally split the world in two. However, the events are about as rare as a lot of the dangerous elements and chemicals. (About a .00000000000000005% chance of encounter) Tides are rare to change due to the two moons: The gray moon of Exile, and the red moon of Greed. Exile is the living quarters of most Shadowbeasts (See later.) and Exiled Alfoids. (See later.) Greed is where the most rich and royal (See later.) live. Exile is jam-packed with industrial cities and diseases as it holds about 67% of the total population, mostly due to its heavy gravity and again, diseases as well as death and decay. Greed has the lowest amount of people as there is a shield that confirms identity (and may/may not incinerate criminals that enter) and bloodcaste. This in total holds ~1%. Greed has the Rainbow Fountain, which is a stream of rainbow that circles the entire moon. Infinite prime is a standard earth lookalike with only 2 oceans and rarely any high mountains. (Side effect of temporal looping.) It holds the remaining ~32% of the population.

Main Race: Alfoid
Alfoids are usually pink-skinned, horned humans with bug-like qualities and almost troll-like reproduction periods. They have three toes on their two feet for gripping purposes and six double-jointed fingers on each hand to help with the reproduction and identifying mutants. They start out nearly identical to troll grubs, except they have no hair and horns yet and they are very quick.

Every Alfoid during birth is left alone for their survival, and the weaker born ones get a sort of aid to help them survive in the world. These are called Shadowbeasts and they act as a parental unit to the crawlers that were born weak due to their caste or genes or an error by the Blood Mother. Anyways, alfoid have three stages of crawlerhood that most skip anyways because they learn to walk. The first stage is Birthhood, the first twelve smarkrons (Weeks) of their life, where they learn to fend for themselves from other animals and beasts, among other things. Stage two is Infusionsense, where they infuse the identity, looks and abilities of an animal found in the world. Not much to say here other than its on a direct gaze with the animal they want to infuse and personality will change with the animals infusion. Final Stage is known as Growthhood, where they grow their special colored hair and horns from a mix of their skin or blood and from the genetics they got from Infusionsense. If infusionsense is skipped, the hair grown will be genetically the same as the skin and the horns will be made of glass.


Castes:
Alfoidian Castes take some aspects of the trolls bloodcastes and twist it to be more refined. Society in Infinite Prime was based on whether your blood had color or your skin was acceptable enough. Yes, blood had no color in most of the Alfoids. Finding out that your blood had color meant that you were royalty. Of course, you had to have acceptable skin in order to be considered royal. anything from white to pink was mostly accepted, as long as it didn't lean to red. Red is considered to be a mutant in almost all lands. Oh yeah, the world was split into four. North, South, East and West. Each had their own rules and laws. East was lenient, North the strictest. Let's return to the topic. Bloodcastes also play the most important rule in royalty, as it shows which royal member is the strongest. Red meant you were rather weak but could use Psychonic powers, whilst Black was the absolute strongest.

Romance:
Romance for Alfoids is quite different. In Alfoidian romance, there are only three Triodrants, separated by predator-prey relationships. The first of the three is platonic friendship, which is split into rivals, competition and helpers. The second Triodrant is split into hatred, Accomplices and rivals. The final one is True Love, Rivals and Forbidden. Rivals are in all three because most rivals tend to fluctuate in between one of the three Triodrants. Once the time is right, then they settle into a category and either kill each other, reproduce, or just stay platonically friends.

Oh boy, reproduction. The way that trolls and alfoids reproduce are actually rather similar. However, Alfoids reproduce by using the genetic material in their blood, usually of a True Love relation, and the blood of a royal, since royals are really rare, cannot reproduce with other royals and mostly found on Greed. But exceptions have been made. Trying to be an exception will shut down the Blood mother, which regulates the genes and produces the blank slate of a crawler.

Lifespan:
The Lifespan will depend on the alfoid. they usually live in between 12 seconds to nearly a millennia.

there have been thousands to walk upon our planet.
We haven't been awake to see them.


people I can maybe/definitely/probs do: john, dave, karkat, Eridan
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Offline 01-05-2018, 11:41 AM
Reply: #10
RE: Fanspecies
(01-01-2018 06:11 AM)XenmusHykrus Wrote:  (If I am not interrupting anything, good, but if I am, feel free to tell me and I'll delete my post.)

You aren't.
I made this thread for Fanspecies, not just my own.
Besides, who doesn't love Alf?
[Image: latest?cb=20080801232533]

All kidding aside I actually kinda like your Aliens.
Particularly their Romance system, I might not fully understand the Triodrants and their different rungs.... But I am extremely enamored with the idea of a Predator-Prey relationship nonsense. And how it could tie into their race's secondary stage of development. I am intrigued.
Find all replies by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Board jump:


User(s) browsing this memo: 1 Guest(s)